[Fossgis-talk] [Fwd: Re: [Live-demo] Localized LiveDVD] - Deutschsprachige Version der OSGeoLiveDVD zur INTERGEO 2010?

Di Aug 31 22:37:07 CEST 2010

Hallo Liste,

zur OSGeo kommt die 4.0 Version der OSGeoLiveDVD heraus, die durch den
Einsatz vieler Einzelpersonen in den letzten Monaten zusammengestellt
wurde und die aktuellen Softwareprojekte der OSGeo sowie weiterer Projekte
präsentiert.

Mehr Infos dazu unter [1]

Diese DVD eignet sich sicherlich sehr gut zu Marketingzwecken.

Außerdem wurden Präsentationen erstellt, die die Projekte auf der DVD
vorstellen, die auf Messen sehr gut genutzt werden könnten [2].

Über die Liste kam nun die Frage nach einer Mehrsprachigkeit der DVD auf.
Ich hatte erwähnt, dass wir die DVD gerne auf der Intergeo verteilen
würden.

Nun ist die Frage, ob wir gerne eine deutschsprachige Dokumentation
Version der DVD bis zur Intergeo 2010 aufbauen möchten. Von Seiten des
Projektes wäre dies möglich, da vor allem Übersetzungen erfolgen müssten.

Hierzu müssten etwa 60 bis 100 Seiten in den nächsten 4 Wochen übersetzt
werden [3].
Einige Übersetzungen würden sicherlich von Leuten aus den Projekten
durchgeführt werden können (QGIS, Mapbender, deegree, GeoServer...).

Wenn wir die deutschsprachige Version der DVD bis zur Intergeo anstoßen
möchten, wäre es toll, wenn sich noch ein paar Freiwillige für die
Übersetzungen finden würden.

Was haltet ihr von dem Projekt?

Schönen Gruß

Astrid

[1] http://live.osgeo.org/
[2] http://download.osgeo.org/livedvd/doc-dev/presentation/
[3] http://live.osgeo.org/content.html
On Tue, August 31, 2010 7:27 pm, Astrid Emde wrote:
>

>
> ---------------------------- Original Message
> ----------------------------
> Subject: Re: [Live-demo] Localized LiveDVD
> From:    "Cameron Shorter" <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
> Date:    Mon, August 30, 2010 10:58 pm
> To:      live-demo at lists.osgeo.org
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> I love that people are suggesting translating OSGeo-Live documentation,
> and I actually think it is achievable for Intergeo if you have a couple of
> dedicated translators.
>
> Talking about schedule:
> Our driver for creating the latest English documentation will always be
> the FOSS4G conference, and based on human tendencies we will always be
> getting our English documentation at the last minute before printing,
> without time for translation for foss4g. (This will be the case for the
> 2011 FOSS4G, being in the English speaking USA.)
>
>
> Once we have the FOSS4G version cut (around 4 weeks before foss4g), we
> can then hand the documentation over to translators.
>
> There are 43 projects, each having a 1to 2 page project overview, plus
> 15 or so standard overviews. Maybe 100 pages in total, 60 pages if just
> translating the project overviews.
>
> If very keen, translators can also take on the quickstarts, but that
> will be much more work.
>
> The good thing about the documentation is that we can run the
> documentation install script by itself, applied to a prior release, in
> order to update just the translated documentation.
>
> So for the 4.0 release, if we can find someone to translate ~ 60 project
> overviews to German in the next 4 weeks, then we could create a 4.0_german
> release before Integeo.
>
> On 31/08/10 02:46, Astrid Emde wrote:
>
>> Hello Daniel,
>>
>>
>> On Mon, August 30, 2010 4:36 pm, Daniel Kastl wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi Astrid,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree that the Geoserver directory structure as Jody proposed
>>> should work well.
>>>
>>> In my opinion it would be worth to try to translate at least the
>>> basic documentation. If a few people do this together it shouldn't
>>> take too much time. Does the LiveDVD for Intergeo have any fix
>>> deadline?
>>>
>> The Intergeo will be 5.-7. October 2010
>> (http://www.intergeo.de/de/deutsch/index.php)
>>
>>
>> So it would be quite sportiv to get the german version till then. I
>> think we are fine for this year to provide the english version.
>>
>> There is still the job to do to get some hundred dvd printed and so on.
>>
>>
>>
>> There will be a presentation part on Intergeo where we could present
>> the project and show the slides from Cameron. There is not so much text
>> and the presentation could be in german
>>
>>
>>
>>> Personally I
>>> will spend this week plenty of hours in the airplane from Osaka via
>>> Bangkok to Munich and could start already with translating. Except
>>> you say it's definitely too late for this year already.
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>> I would guess it is already too late. But maybe Cameron and the
>> packaging team have to decide this.
>>
>> Anyway you already could do the translations for the next version.
>>
>>
>> Have a good flight.
>>
>>
>> Astrid
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> 2010/8/30 Astrid Emde<astrid_emde at osgeo.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> it would be great if we could provide the LiveDVD in different
>>>> languages. We plan to take the LiveDVD to the Intergeo which is a
>>>> big fair but mostly with german speaking visitors. It won't work out
>>>> to get a german version for 2010, but maybe we can provide it for
>>>> next year.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe most documents could be translated from people from the
>>>> projects themselves (this would be possible at least for german).
>>>> For german
>>>> translations I also can ask people from the FOSSGIS e.V. (german
>>>> speaking local chapter of the OSGeo).
>>>>
>>>> I agree with the data structure Jody suggested.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Astrid
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, August 30, 2010 1:15 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> For geoserver we ended up with duplicating the docs in different
>>>>> svn trees (using the iso language name as the directory):
>>>>>
>>>>> You can see the result here:
>>>>> - http://svn.codehaus.org/geoserver/trunk/doc/en/
>>>>> - http://svn.codehaus.org/geoserver/trunk/doc/es/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jody
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 3:12 AM, Daniel Kastl
>>>>> <daniel.kastl at georepublic.de>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree with many of the goals. It's long been on my list to
>>>>>>> get the language switcher like the normal ubuntu disk has
>>>>>>> right at boot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can easily switch the default language and keyboard
>>>>>>> setting by hand right before building the iso.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now that we have rst based docs
>>>>>>> +1 on translating the docs (the how to change
>>>>>>> language/keyboard would be the best one to start with) +1 on
>>>>>>> translating menus if they need it (note the ubuntu menus
>>>>>>> already are translated for the most part) - Encouraging the
>>>>>>> translation of OSGeo apps to the same list of
>>>>>>> languages (list might need some adjustment) we've included. +1
>>>>>>>  translating cover
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry I won't be there in Barcelona but don't let that stop
>>>>>>> you from talking about it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>>>> I agree. The main work would be translating.
>>>>>> Unfortunately Sphinx doesn't support multilingual documents. I
>>>>>> looked for this a few weeks ago already. So probably at first we
>>>>>>  need to agree on some guideline and naming convention for
>>>>>> localized documentation, and we could think about how to inform
>>>>>> translators about changes and updates of the original files. The
>>>>>> latter is a common problem of translated documents. Daniel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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